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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 06:10 pm
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OK, so I am getting really tired of PSP crashing every single time I've used it since I got Vista and am considering upgrading, if that will fix the problem. Got some questions for anyone here using the newest version, which seems to be PSP Photo X2. If you use any version after Corel took it over, you can probably help me, though.

1. Does it play well with Vista? The version I have (ver. 8) does everything I need so I'd only want to upgrade if it will be more stable.

2. Does it still have all the painterly tools and functions? From what I've read on their site, it is aimed strictly at photo use and they don't even mention that you can paint with it. I don't really need it for photos, so if it isn't still for painting (and vectors) I wouldn't want it.

For me, this is a lot of money so I'd really like to hear from someone using it, to help me decide if it would be worth it.



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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 06:24 pm
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You could download the trial version, fully functional for 30 days.  Available for download at Corel's site.




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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 06:37 pm
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I decided to look for you to see if there is a fix for psp and Vista.  I did find one for version 11  [XI].  It is here:
http://www.softwarepatch.com/graphics/paintshop-pro-11.html

Here it is for version 10
http://www.softwarepatch.com/graphics/paintshop-pro-10-10.html

Here is another place that helps with the problem:
http://www.nerdgrind.com/corel-paint-shop-pro-crash-fix-for-vista/

Here is what someone with version 8 did:
I have been using Jasc Paint Shop Pro 8 with Windows XP SP2 for two years and never had any trouble. I recently upgraded my OS to Windows Vista. After re-installing Paint Shop Pro 8, every time I opened the program I received a mesaage stating "Failed to update system registry" "Please try using REGEDIT". After clicking "OK" the program appeared to continue loading correctly and all was well until I opened a picture file and tried to edit the image, at which point the program would lock-up and I received a message saying the program was not working. The only option was to close the program and lose any changes made.

After numerous searches, the only solution I found was for Windows XP which advised changing certain system registry values to allow "Full" permission for the program. I tried that without success. I also uninstalled and re-installed Paint Shop Pro 8. That did not solve the problem either.

Finally, I used the "Program Compatibility Wizard" in MS Windows Vista (Control Panel > Programs > Programs & Features > Use an older program with this version of windows) where I selected to run the program in Windows XP SP2 mode and I also selected to run the program as "Administrator". These settings seem to have solved the problem. I no longer receive the "Failed to update system registry" message when I open the program and the program no longer locks up when editing an image.

Please note that after making these changes, you will be prompted to "Continue" or "Allow" the program to run each time you open it. I hope this information will help others experiencing this problem.




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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 06:44 pm
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Melissa, it says here that X2 does not require any update for Vista.
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1164926747575



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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 06:55 pm
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holder wrote: Melissa, it says here that X2 does not require any update for Vista.
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1164926747575


Thanks, I replied to that in the other thread. Odd how my problem is exactly the opposite as the other person with ver. 8! Well, at least it looks like the new version would be completely compatible.

I guess I should download the trial version like Topsy says and see what it will do, but if is like previous upgrades, everything will be either in a different place, or called something else, and it will take me quite a while to figure it all out. So if anyone's got some experience in it already, I'd still love to hear from you.



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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 07:40 pm
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I have Vista Home Premium and I'm using PSPx2.  Love them both and they work well with each other.  I have had a couple little glitches with the filters.  I cannot for the life of me make Eye candy work.  Others have it and it works fine.  But I have many filters that are working very well.  And there's a patch to ensure that, although I have not used that patch.  It only works on Filter Meister filters and EC is not one of them.

I am probably one of the very few that likes Vista.  As long as my PSPx2 and Animation Shop work with Vista, I'm a happy camper.



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I have Vista and I too love it! I am using PSPX and I have had no problems whatsoever.



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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 09:28 pm
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Well, I downloaded the trial but while reading reviews on it found that if I install it, it will also install and run PSIService.exe every single time it starts. It can cause slow startups, interfere with other software, and basically seems like an invasion of privacy. I really don't think I want that. Seems like it would be enough to check that it is a licensed copy the first time it runs. Why must this program check it every single time it runs? Do they think it will be a licensed copy today, but tomorrow it might be an illegal copy? Sheesh.

About this - http://ussenterprise.blogdns.net/blog2/archive/2007/02/16/316.aspx

Why oh why did Jasc hand us over to Corel? Not sure what I'm going to do but for now I am not going to install it.

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 Posted: 22 Apr 2008 11:16 pm
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I used the free trial for a couple days, then purchased it.  I don't get any psi service exe every time it starts.  I don't understand what it is you're talking about.  I'll have to check out the link you posted.

I've had no problems with x2 and vista.



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The PSI Services and Corel IO Monitor can be disabled.  In XP its through msconfig and in the services tab and also the startup tab these functions can be unchecked so that they will not start up when your system is booted.  I can't tell you how it is done in Vista but I'm pretty sure it is very similar.  One of the Vista users can help you there I'm sure.



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 Posted: 23 Apr 2008 12:16 pm
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MT Pockets wrote: The PSI Services and Corel IO Monitor can be disabled.  In XP its through msconfig and in the services tab and also the startup tab these functions can be unchecked so that they will not start up when your system is booted.  I can't tell you how it is done in Vista but I'm pretty sure it is very similar.  One of the Vista users can help you there I'm sure.

Yes, but according to the people in several different places where I read about it, PSP will not function anymore if you disable it. Have you got the PSIServices disabled and can still use PSP?



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 Posted: 24 Apr 2008 04:27 pm
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"it will also install and run PSIService.exe every single time it starts. It can cause slow startups, interfere with other software, and basically seems like an invasion of privacy."

This discussion was started over a year ago:
http://ussenterprise.blogdns.net/blog2/archive/2007/02/16/316.aspx
The statements are rather general and may not be applicable today. I would be interested to know exactly how the service is "spyware" though and will look into it..

Try setting the service to Manual or Automatic (Delayed) rather than Disable. As with much of today's software, the program may NEED the service in order to run.

Click on the Start menu and type services in the search box
When you see Services appear in the programs list, press Enter (or click on it if it’s not the top entry in the list)
If you have UAC active, you’ll need to approve elevated rights. You’ll then see the Services window open, which lists all installed services.
Double-click the name of the service you wish to disable and you’ll get a Properties window for the service.
If the service is currently started, stop it by clicking the Stop button.
Click on the Startup Type menu and choose Manual or Automatic (Delayed Start).
Click Apply or OK.

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# Automatic ~ With a service in this state, it will start at boot time. Some services, when no longer required, will also automatically stop when not needed. If you find you do not need a service, place it into Manual or Disabled.
# Automatic (Delayed Start) ~ With a service in this state, it will start just after boot time. Some services, when no longer required, will also automatically stop when not needed. If you find you do not need a service, place it into Manual or Disabled.
# Manual ~ Manual mode allows Windows to start a service when needed. However, very few services will start up when required in Manual mode. If you find you need a service, place it into Automatic.
# Disabled ~ This setting will stop a service from starting, even if needed.


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The security researchers consider it a legitimate service, but it is up to you whether you want it running.

http://www.castlecops.com/O23.html
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/PSIService.exe-16772.html



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I have those services totally disabled and all versions of PSP run and function properly.



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 Posted: 24 Apr 2008 05:07 pm
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MT Pockets wrote: I have those services totally disabled and all versions of PSP run and function properly.

That is good news, then. I'd read in a couple places that PSP wouldn't function at all with it disabled, but maybe it was changed after enough complaints. :cool:

I'm sure it IS a legitimate service, but that doesn't make it a necessary service. This check should only be made at install time. If I have a legitimate copy at install, and the disk isn't required to run the software, why would it suddenly become an illegal copy later? It's just stupid. 



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 Posted: 24 Apr 2008 10:12 pm
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I agree.
I'm sure it IS a legitimate service, but that doesn't make it a necessary service. 
 If I have a legitimate copy at install, and the disk isn't required to run the software, why would it suddenly become an illegal copy later? It's just stupid. 
Vendors can include a service to check for legality. In other words, if you need a patch, they want to make sure the software that they are patching is a licensed copy.  It is not "an invasion of privacy". It simply tells the vendor, "I'm running, and I'm legitimate, so go ahead and patch me." :)




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