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Graham
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Posted: 24 Jul 2007 07:50 pm |
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I would like to suggest that we start to be a little more constructive with our comments in the forums, at the moment it’s all
Great Image
That’s really good
Good one
I like it
Etc etc
Although it’s nice to receive praise for your work it’s also nice to have things pointed out that could be improved.
For example, look at the animation of the pages turning in a book, which I submitted in the Plus Place forum.
This animation, although reasonable, is not right the pages are turning from the back of the book to the front, and you can not turn a page like that naturally, try it with a book and see.
I have made a more realistic image of pages turning which I will post later.
My point is that nobody wrote
Nice Image Graham, would like to see a version with the pages turning more naturally.
What I’m trying to say is that we should always be nice to those who post, but we should also try to be a bit more constructive.
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Posted: 24 Jul 2007 11:22 pm |
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Graham, we tried a forum meant for helping folks improve their images. We called it Hard as Nails [which now is for posting of newly made tutorials.] Very few posted in there to have their images critiqued. It wasn't used. I even posted one time long ago for people to post their previous challenge images so that members could tell them how to improve them. Nobody did it. So we gave up on the idea.
If you post an image and say that you want suggestions for making it better, believe me, people will tell you. Some have done that in PlusPlace in the past and they do get suggestions for making the image better. Admittedly, it does not happen too often. But, you must ask the members to do that for each image you post.
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milarkee
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 01:45 am |
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I hope I am not overstepping my mark here but I just have to comment. I agree it is good to get constructive advice but with the media we use to communicate said advice i.e. without facial expressions and tone of voice, it may come across as demeaning to the poster and that wouldn't be very constructive and may in actual fact put the person 'off' posting their work. Sure offer advice but be very aware of the wording.
Smiling here and said in a chatty soft tone 
Last edited on 25 Jul 2007 01:46 am by milarkee
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 02:53 am |
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I agree, milarkee, and only when the advice is asked for.
And welcome to the site! 
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 07:27 am |
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Yes I agree as well Milarkee. If people ask for critique (as some do) that is fine, but it could well put people off posting if a critique is not asked for. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and not everyone likes the same things.
We want people to have fun here and welcome everyone regardless of their abilities with graphic programs. Personally I would hate to see anyone being put off joining in because they felt intimidated by comments, no matter how well meaning they are.
It is easy enough for people to take offence at the spoken word, but even more so when it is written down. Our original forum for this soon died a death but folks are welcome to post their images in Plus Place and ask for suggestions to improve it.
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goofygrmom3
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 11:27 am |
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While it's nice to get a second opinion on an image. I would prefer to ask for that advice. It takes a lot of very hard work and a long time to make an image. We usually know where we went wrong, but would prefer not to have it pointed out to us.
Hope I was polite here. LOL
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 04:53 pm |
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I think it is easy enough to ask for suggestions when someone really does want them and for those like Graham who welcome all contructive comments, maybe they could just add "critiques welcome" to their signatures.
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milarkee
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 09:58 pm |
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I agree Nanson, I personally don't mind any advise 'coz it means I learn more 
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Judy
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Posted: 25 Jul 2007 10:03 pm |
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Posted: 26 Jul 2007 11:36 pm |
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When commenting, I try to tell each person what it is -I like about- the image and not so much what I don't like because my vision may be completely different.
I can understand your point Graham, however, some may take comments the wrong way if I were to nit pick at an image that may have taken them several hours and lots of patience to do and then get up the courage to post it on a public forum for hundreds of viewers to peek at.
Not saying that the right kind of comments may help one to learn better but to do that in a public forum where all levels of users are together, it can be very hard to get the right kind of message across and not to offend unless they specifically ask for it.
In my opinion the beauty of art is that it doesn't have to be perfect to you but it may be perfect to its creator.
I have been subject to posting two words in my comments but it doesn't mean I didn't mean what I say. Some images leave me speechless. Now there is an icon I could use! lol
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