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Graham Member

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Posted: 30 Jul 2007 08:08 am |
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Hi, I'm back again!
I would like to suggest that the forum title, Hard as Nails, be changed.
I know it's a throw back from when users wanted work evaluating but but it is now used for tutorials and the title does not really make that clear, even though the sub title mentions it.
Hard as Nails sounds like the tutorials are going to be hard.
So I'm suggesting something like, The Learning Center or Tuts R Us.
Anybody got any other suggestions? maybe a quick competition for fun?
Name that Forum.
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Topsy Coordinator

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Posted: 30 Jul 2007 08:44 am |
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We kept the forum name because it was changed from image critique to a forum where people could post their new tutorials for members to try out and then comment on them or add suggestions on ways to improve the tutorial.
We then added that you could request a tutorial as well to give it a dual purpose.
See the guidelines for posting tutorials
GUIDELINES
We also have a tutorial page which is not open for critique.
PS. I have amended the intro to make it clear it is for critique as not everyone reads the guidelines.
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Graham Member

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Posted: 30 Jul 2007 09:15 am |
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This seems, to me, to be a strange way of doing things, one forum is on the main site
'Hard as Nails'
which is for tutorial writers to get opinions on the tutorials that they write.
The other is to a page which then has a link to another page where the tutorials are not in any kind of order, and seem to be mostly for PSP7, as we are now up to PSP X1
it looks a little dated.
I'm sure that a dedicated tutorial forum with some kind of order and uniformity of layout would be better, similar to the PSPUG tutorials pages.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2007 09:42 am |
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The tutorials page on our main site, which the forums are also part of, is made up of tutorials donated to Pluspsp by members and no one has donated any updated ones to us. Suprisingly enough, there are still lots of people who use the older versions of PSP, and it is nice that we still have tutorials available for them.
The two things are totally separate in as much that one is for critiques for new tutorials and to help their authors and the other for tested tutorials.
Anyone who would like to donate tuts for recent versions of graphic programs are more than welcome to do so and we will add them to the tutorial page. Just send them to me with the html pages and graphics.
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Graham Member

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Posted: 30 Jul 2007 10:01 am |
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So you need, in some cases, three clicks, one on the main page, which takes you to a page with a link to another page which then can take you to the authors page.
Still think it could be done better, but if that's the way it is, so be it.
I will try to get some more tutorials to you.
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Carol UK Coordinator

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Posted: 30 Jul 2007 10:10 am |
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Bear in mind that, unlike PSPUG, we are not an exclusive PSP site. When we started +PSP, we saw that there were sites already catering for PSP exclusively, but there was a gap in the market for a site which catered for people using several programs - often using more thn one in the creation of a single image. That is what we aim to address. Our tutorials can be for any graphics or 3D program, whether they are in the critique forum, Hard as Nails, or among the donated tutorials which we provide as a service to members only. So we don't have any need or obligation to provide tutorials for any particular version of any program, and if members donate tutorials for our collection, they will be for the programs/versions that their authors use. Most of our Members have a version of PSP in their armoury - some have nothing else.
There are quite a few people who rather lost interest in newer versions of PSP when they started to devote so much of the new content to photography, and some of those people have stuck with, or gone back to, earlier versions like PSP 7.
Our content reflects the interests of our Members. We do not commission tutorials, but accept with gratitude what our Members donate. If anyone donates good tutorials using any version of any program, we add them to the collection, so if anyone gives us tutorials using the later versions of PSP, PhotoImpact, Terragen, Vue, Photoshop, Poser, Serif Draw Plus, Paint, Corel Draw, or anything else, they will join the others. But we do not attempt to dictate to our members what programs/versions they use and nor do we reject tutorials or tips for earlier versions.
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